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The problems are like symptoms of diseases, sometimes are the same, but the causes why they appears are different. Solutions can be different depending the context where the problem exist. Don't try to fit solutions into problems.

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Added a new one https://github.com/jkutianski/civicpatterns.org/commit/73c55cae50bfc1ecf18741b3cb5999c1f0259d38 tied with the #21

Borned in contexts, living in problems, will die on solutions

The solution/s are tied to one or more issues, and real issues need to be defined on a context. Define first the context and then will describe the issue and the solution.

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pudo commented Mar 31, 2015

I don't get this at all -- can you give me another hint?

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My chinese is better than my english! :) But some people don't understand me on spanish too!

for https://github.com/jkutianski/civicpatterns.org/commit/cdd3ffd31dfb8308e66aa9f5b029a44dadc245fa
Don't try to use known solutions from known problems if the context does not match

for https://github.com/jkutianski/civicpatterns.org/commit/73c55cae50bfc1ecf18741b3cb5999c1f0259d38.
Start studying the context after, then the issues, and at the end the solution.

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@pudo I don't know if this is clear. If looks messy for you, please flee free to close the PR.

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pudo commented Apr 21, 2015

Nah, this is "normal": these patterns should be discussions, rather than just simple additions - we want to get the phrasing so that they are ideal. What do you think, @lucyfedia?

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pmackay commented Apr 21, 2015

Am personally finding these rather confusing and too general IMHO...

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@pmackay Sure, looks confusing, but it's just an start point. It's too general... probably, but a lot of people try solve problems starting from solution instead of study the problem. And is an issue of hackathons too, because the people doesn't have too much time to spend on the problem side and they go straight to solutions.
Something similar happens when the people look at problems ignoring the context, it's common to see on this cases how people apply known solutions just because the problem looks like to current one, but in a different context some times the same solutions do not fit very well.

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